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Church Government - A Justice Primer
Written by Douglas Wilson   
Tuesday, 18 December 2007 08:35

Some weeks ago, I did some protestantial hooting about an upcoming encyclical from the pope on global warming. According to an informed source, my post has apparently caused some ongoing consternation among some of our Catholic friends. Although I have promised a handsome apology if it turns out the pope actually thinks that global warming is a boatload of hooey, some think this is inconsistent on my part. Since I don't want to cause any unnecessary heartburn, here is a brief explanation.

What if, the argument goes, someone said that they read some newspaper account saying Wilson is a racist, and they believed it. But, they say, if proof to the contrary is produced, they promise to apologize handsomely, just like me apologizing to the pope. Isn't that the same situation as my comments about the pope? No, but it is at least a reasonable question. What is the difference then?

The article I was using as the basis for my comments was a positive article, favorably citing the pope for his courage in coming out for the environment. Now it is possible that the pope takes the same view of global warming that I do, to wit that the whole whipped-up frenzy is a bunch of statist malarkey, and this positive article was running in an attempt to pressure the pope, to get him back into line somehow. If that turns out to be the case, my apology to the pope (and I hope he takes my call!) would be for that -- but not for accepting a slander about him.

To make the situations parallel, suppose someone wanted to pressure me in the direction of the Approved Multiculturalism, and so the resultant newspaper article did not accuse me of racism, but rather praised me for my recently announced and broad-minded decision to celebrate Kwanzaa this year instead of Christmas. This was a courageous move on Wilson's part, the paper said, sure to irritate his former neo-confederate cronies, and so forth. Now if someone believed this article praising me (falsely), that would be quite a different thing than accepting a slanderous accusation.

Now it is true that I accepted a newspaper account praising the pope for bringing his influence to bear on the crisis of global warming. If that turns out to be a false report, and the pope would actually be insulted by the idea that he was so foolish as to believe that global warming was a real crisis, then I will apologize to him for accepting that praise offered by the newspaper, which in reality was an insult.

I am a Protestant to the back teeth, but that doesn't make Pius XII "Hitler's pope." When people bring their slanders about such things, Proverbs 18:17 applies regardless of whether I am Protestant or not. I should not pass the evil report on, and then try to get off the hook by promising to apologize if it turns out to be false. But if I read a newspaper article that says that the pope dedicated a shrine to the Black Madonna somewhere in Europe, and I accept this report, I am not receiving a slander "without checking," even if I consider shrines to Black Madonnas a very bad thing. Now this doesn't make the report necessarily true, but it does mean that it is not slander for me to accept it.

Many of us get information from Drudge. When I read there that Gore was given the Nobel Prize, I didn't have to go check the truth of the report myself. If I read there that Britany got married again, there is nothing wrong with just accepting the report. But when I read that Sen. Craig was accused of soliciting sexual favors in an airport restroom, and he denied it, I didn't have any business accepting the news accounts until I saw Craig's guilty plea. The same reticence does not have to apply if I were to read a positive article about an out-of-the-closet homosexual in Congress. What Craig takes as slander, Barney Frank would not.

Now suppose your local newspaper had a special "Gay Pride" edition, highlighting all the important homosexuals in your area. Suppose further that they had a special sidebar feature on somebody, but they put the wrong photo and name in the article, and suppose further that you read it, and think to yourself -- "Huh. I didn't know that Mayor Smith was gay." The report was erroneous, and apologies are called for, especially from the paper, but it would not be receiving a slander for me to think (for 24 hours or so) that Mayor Smith was a homosexual. My basis for thinking so would be the same as for thinking Elton John is.

So, bringing this full circle, I would be insulted if someone accused me of believing in the global warming hype. But I would not be slandered if someone believed that of me based on a positive report about me in a newspaper. Once my stern letter to the editor appeared, and the person who believed falsely that I was so foolish apologized to me for thinking I was capable of doing that, I would be glad to accept the apology -- especially if it were offered handsomely.



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Keith LaMothe  Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:11 am
Doug,



I don't think I fully understand the distinction. What if the folks at Little Geneva had posted a glowing article praising you for coming around to their kinist convictions? Would it be slander for someone to put up a post on their blog entitled "Wilson's racism now official"?



Thanks,

Keith
Douglas Wilson  Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:38 am
Keith, if they did that sincerely, not being cute, I wouldn't like it, and would do whatever I could to correct the problem, but I don't think that would be slander on their part, or on the part of someone who believed it.
Chris Witmer  Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:24 pm
"It's never official until it's denied."

-- I.N. Tolerista


By the way, congratulations to the people of Moscow on the wonderful Christmas present given to them by mayor Dick CheneyNancy Chaney with the help of her outgoing leftist goon squad at what was the final meeting for the latter. I'm sure they all relished giving the citizens who voted them out of office the legislative equivalent of a swift kick between the legs as their way of saying, "The feeling is mutual." So now, unless the incoming City Council can find a way to overturn that decision, in addition to all the other trouble Chaney has brought upon Moscow she seems prepared to use the taxpayer's money in a lawsuit that the city will surely lose, and for good reason. The good news, and why I'm congratulating you, is that for the remainder of her term, Nancy Chaney and the City Council will probably remain locked in a stalemate and nothing will get done, which is actually usually a good thing in politics. (Certainly the less that someone like Chaney is able to do, the better.) Thank you Moscow for the non-stop entertainment!

Matthew N. Petersen  Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:58 pm
If I may, the question isn't quite slander, but in what courts do we try other Christians?



Should we try Christians in the secular press? Should we let the secular press tell us our opinions of other Christians?



Though it is perhaps a little tricky to see, it seems that when we agree with the verdict as the secular press, but say that they have called evil good or good evil, we are still trying our brothers in secular courts.



Matt
lewsta  Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:39 pm
So, Mr. Witmer, do tell..for the benefit of us who do not read the Moscow Daily Fishwrap, WHAT this alledged "christmas present" might be? Having followed the Moscow Follies for some time now, I seem to be amongst those not privy to this recent development. I WAS quite giddy with glee to note the "upset" of the erstwhile oh so cozy power bloc that formerly held sway over the western muscovites.....nor was the means by which this likely happened lost upon myself. When corrupt scoundrels use their power to their own unrighteous ends there is always a day of reckoning. Theirs has now come upon them. I doubt not they are sitting about shaking their heads in disbelief at their fate. Somewhat like a besotted Cool Hand Luke, shaking HIS head in disbelief as they cart him off to gaol for the mere severing of the head of a car park meter in the wee hours. Didn't he know he lived in Texas?
Joshua Gibbs  Tuesday, December 18, 2007 7:35 pm
Mr. Wilson, I'm interested in how the obvious glee expressed in your original post on the pope caving to secularist thoughts on global warming plays into all of this. Hearing that the pope had allegedly caved "did your Protestant blood good," as I recall, and this before the man actually delivered the encyclical. It seems like there's a strong presumption of guilt here. You assume he's guilty unless the encyclical proves him innocent. I could swear I've heard you condemn this uncharitable manner of passing judgment a number of times in the last few weeks as concerns Steve Wilkins.
Chris Witmer  Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:20 pm
Here ya go:



Moscow devalues marriage, trashes constitution

Matt Yonke  Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:08 am
Pastor Wilson,

Thanks for addressing the issue but I don't think your response holds water (surprise surprise!) and here's why:

As I recall, the FV folks did not take at all kindly to my connecting Rome and the FV a few months back particularly because the opponents for the FV believed it.

Now, let's assume your worldview for the sake of argument. I misunderstand the FV and the FV has nothing to do with Rome.
-I make a post that erroneously connects the two and tries to portray this as a good thing. Nothing negative is said about the FV.
-The opponents of the FV believe my false but positive report.
-The FV camp is outraged.

Now, let's examine the current hubbub.
-The internet makes a post erroneously espousing that the Holy Father has bought global warming hook, line, and sinker, but says nothing bad about him.
-You, the espoused enemy of Rome, who would love to see that haughty Pontiff get knocked down a peg, believe the false but positive report.
-Catholics not pleased.

The only difference I can see is that in the Pope/Global warming scandal, you can be proved to have been in factual error in believing (to say nothing of rejoicing in the fact) that the Pope believes the hype.
Matt Yonke  Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:14 am
But that comment is one big digression. You didn't say that if the Holy Father didn't actually believe the global warming hype and the report you were referring to was negative or slanderous you would apologize handsomely.

You said that "if, when the encyclical appears, it turns out that he has said nothing more than that we should be good stewards of the earth, and my hilarity was misplaced, I will apologize handsomely. But I don’t think that is going to be necessary."


That has happened except for the apology. All this positive/negative stuff is a smokescreen. Just admit you made a bad call like you said you would.

Gil Shivers  Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:21 pm
Matt,



You said "that stuff has happened except for the apology", I assume that you mean that the encyclical is out, and that its content should have Wilson apologizing. I cannot find that encyclical, can you direct me to it?
Matt Yonke  Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:54 pm
Gil,

Thanks for asking. That there would be an encyclical was speculation. There might be, but what did happen was the Pope's speech to the UN (which occurred in Bali, rather than NY, though he might repeat it there on his journey to the US in 2008).

The link to that speech is here:

http://tinyurl.com/2t4nzy
Gil Shivers  Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:55 pm
Matt,



Thanks for the clarification. The Daily Mail article to which you linked surely does make it sound like the Pope came out with both barrels against global warming scare-mongering.



But, the actual content of his World Peace Day speech, linked here is not nearly as strong against the global warmers as the Daily Mail "suggested" it is. He comes across as wanting some refinement of specific points, but there is nothing so strong as a "quit being over-dramatic eco-weenies!" that would cause an environmentalist to think that the Pope was not on his side. I don't know where the Daily Mail came up with the Pope "warning them (climate change prophets of doom) that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology" from the text of this speech.