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Political Dualism - Dualism Is Bad JuJu
Written by Douglas Wilson   
Tuesday, 27 July 2010 06:27

Hunter says many things that sound quite good, and it is not surprising that he has gotten good reviews from around the Reformed and evangelical world. After all, what Kuyperian could take issue with this?

"In short, faithful presence in practice is the exercise of leadership in all spheres and all levels of life and activity" (p. 260).

But what kind of leadership? Hunter has made it clear that this is a "plays well with others" kind of leadership, and not a "runs with scissors" leadership. He means leadership that does not result in significant numbers of people actually following. For if that happened, we are back in Constantinianville.

"I have argued that faithful presence is a theology of commitment and promise" (p. 261).

Again, commitment to what? Promise of what?

And it is here that Hunter's commitment to the academician's disease becomes apparent. Real debate is mutually respectful, and occurs in paneled seminar rooms in toney universities. If Christians cannot rise to that level, then they should just shut up (p. 266).

"To engage in a war of words is to engage in symbolic violence that is fundamentally at odds with the gospel. And too often, on such hot button issues as poverty, abortion, race relations, and homosexuality, the poor, children, minorities, and gays are used as weapons in ideological warfare. This too is an expression of instrumentalization" (p. 266).

 

Now Hunter would say that he is only saying that Christians should "listen carefully to opponents," and not that Christians should not take issue. But if what our opponents are saying is outrageous, like saying that if the unborn are chopped up into little pieces the Supreme Court doesn't care, then maintaining that this topic is worthy of getting on the agenda for a civil and reasoned debate with fellow members of your academic club, then it has become apparent that your side has already lost the debate, because "your side" clearly doesn't believe the words coming out of its own mouth. They don't need to defeat us if we have already capitulated.

"Another and perhaps simpler way of saying this is that the burden of shalom falls to leaders" (p. 269, emphasis his).

Yes, it most certainly does. I have a great deal of sympathy with Hunter's aristocratic emphasis, and I agree with him that leadership is essential. Populist uprisings are often far too broad, and not nearly focused enough. Leadership is essential. But aristocratic necessities are of no help when you come to the recognition that this aristocracy, this ruling class, is hopelessly corrupt.



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John F  - Outlawing other Christians?  Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:20 am
Doug,

I want to ask this question in all fairness.

Let us assume that you were to one day wake up to your constantinian dream. Would you eventually want to start outlawing (and punishing) those Christian forms with which you disagree? (Lutherans, Anglicans, Baptists, Catholics, etc) - even when some of these are, in fact, your colaborers in Christ?

Would you have, say, Albert Mohler behind bars?

What happens when the church Christ has built doesn't divide along the same lines as the interests of your version of a Christian state?

The reason I ask this, is because in my conversations with theonomists, this is where they really seem to waffle. They agree that there would probably have to be some civil punishment for what's between a person's ears, but they're very reluctant to admit it.

Would your version of faithful presence eventually turn into faithful persecution?
Douglas Wilson  - Turnabout  Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:58 pm
John, I'll just answer briefly, and hope to write more on this in my Mere Christendom thread. The answer is no, there is no way that an Al Mohler would wind up behind bars in my idea of Christendom. But if he keeps it up, he does run a risk of winding up behind bars in this secularist paradise of ours.
John F  - Let's See It  Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:38 pm
Thanks for the response. It's, of course, unsatisfying for now, but I'll look forward to seeing how you work out of it.
Michael Duchemin  - Sins and Crimes  Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:58 pm
John,
Which theonomists are you talking to? Taking Greg Bahnsen as an example, I don't see anywhere where he advocated civil magistrates punishing sins that aren't crimes (attached with a specific judicial penal sanction) in the Bible. Pastors should preach against sins that aren't crimes, but civil rulers shouldn't punish them.
Doug Sowers  Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:08 pm
Good point Michael I whole heartily concur.