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Five More Volleys on Effeminate Worship PDF Print E-mail
Liturgy and Worship - Liturgical Notes
Written by Douglas Wilson   
Tuesday, 24 April 2012 07:05

A short while ago I posted something about effeminate worship that has since that time excited some comment. The original piece was here, and you can see a couple of responses here and here.

This is not so much a point-by-point refutation as it is getting out a wetvac to clear up some misunderstandings. Once we understand each other, it is unlikely that this will bring about sweet concord on the subject, but at least we should be closer to the heart of the actual disagreement.

First, effeminacy and femininity are not synonyms. When I say that worship services have become effeminate, I am not saying that that they have become feminine. They have actually ceased being feminine (but more on this later). Feminine characteristics are God-given, and in their assigned place, they are a great glory, as terrible as an army with banners. But when feminine characteristics are falsely adopted by someone who has no claim or title to them, then that is effeminate.

The same principle runs the other way. When a woman adopts certain masculine prerogatives, putting on the gear of a warrior, let us say (Dt. 22:5), then this is grotesque. But to say it is grotesque is not to say that the same thing applies when a man who puts on the gear of a warrior. It would be grotesque for him not to.

Second, there is a difference between corporate piety and individual piety. In the first paragraph of my original post, I recommended the book The Church Impotent by Leon Podles. This particular point is a central theme of his book. The Church is the bride of Christ (Eph. 5:23), and is in the process of adorning herself, as a bride does for her husband (Rev. 21:2). Podles points out that a fatal step was taken (by Bernard of Clairvaux) when expressions of corporate piety became normative for expressions of individual piety. The Church can and must adorn herself as a bride. Our corporate identity is feminine. But if an individual man attempts to replicate that identity in his personal devotions, two bad things can happen. The first is that he finds he can step right into such role, no prob, and presto, we have ourselves a new worship leader. The second problem is that the cultivation of this demeanor is so alien to how God made him that he concludes that the Christian faith must not be for him. This is all the result of a fundamental confusion about the relationship of corporate identity to individual identity.

Third, misogyny should never be defined as saying something negative about particular sins that women may be prone to. That way lies madness. The apostle Paul takes a shot against old wives' tales (1 Tim. 4:7), without having any animus whatever toward old wives generally. But it should be noted that in this, our effeminate age, our contempo-translators protect Paul from himself (and his inexcusable gaffe) by rendering it as "silly myths" (ESV), "silly tales" (NIrV), or "silly stories" (Message).

If men are prone to particular sins (and they are), it is not an attack on all men as men to identify that particular temptation. And men do struggle with particular male-oriented sins -- anger, brittle pride, lust. But one thing they don't tend to do is think that when a preacher attacks angry men he must be attacking all men. That is, however, a temptation that women do have, and effeminate men often copy them in this. A particular sin is singled out that some women fall prey to, and it is assumed that anyone who points it out is at war with all women. One of my critics said this: "What is clear is that Wilson exudes a deep distrust and contempt for women in this post." Heh. Because he critiques women who do X, he must have it in for women who wouldn't ever do X.

Fourth, returning to the truths established in the first two points, it should be pointed out that there is, in the modern worship wars, a real attack on the true corporate femininity of the Church. When women teach or exercise authority over men in the Church (1 Tim. 2:12), or when women refuse to remain silent in the way the apostle requires (1 Cor. 14:34), this means that the congregation involved is refusing to do what her husband has required of her (Eph. 5:24). That congregation is being unfeminine, unsubmissive.

This means that when you attend a worship service led throughout by men, that worship service is appropriately feminine. You don't make a service feminine by putting women up front, you make a service feminine and submissive by doing what our husband has required of us. When the wishes of our husband and federal head are blithely ignored, the assembly of the saints has become a continuous dripping on a rainy day (Prov. 27:15), and it would be better to go out and live in a desolate wilderness than to worship there (Prov. 21:19). That is what a contentious woman is like, and if somebody wants to be contentious about it (1 Cor. 11:16), he should remember that we actually do have apostolic guidance for how we should think about the relationship of the sexes.

Fifth, when it is simply assumed that masculine leadership in true (feminine) worship must mean some sort of machismo, or swagger, or talking out of the side of your mouth, this is an assumption that runs clean contrary to what we have taught on this subject for many years.

For example, in Future Men, in a section entitled Counterfeit Masculinity, I say this:

"This can all be done in a loud voice, and with hairy chest, but it is still shirking a duty assigned by God" (p. 23).

"This false masculinity -- excuse-making, bluster, braggadocio -- is in part the result of resisting and opposing true masculinity" (p. 24).

There is plenty more of this kind of thing throughout my writing on this whole subject, down to and including a rejection of "Esau Christianity." I make the point that while Esau was off four-wheeling in the woods, fulfilling stereotypes, Jacob was faithfully tending to the family business.

So, is our rejection of effeminate worship "mean-spirited" toward women? Not a bit of it. Does it show contempt for the abilities of women who have accepted the role God has assigned to them? Again, no. I write as a man in a family crammed full of high-performance women, and would mildly suggest that if anybody really wants to attack me on this front, a little background research might be helpful to them.

 

 



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Phillip Harrison  Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:11 am
Quote:
I make the point that while Esau was off four-wheeling in the woods, fulfilling stereotypes, Jacob was faithfully tending to the family business.



I love this, and have always found it interesting that the homebody instead of the adventurer was the one chosen.
This post is the best exposition of this topic I've read.
David Smith  Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:12 am
Spot-on, Pastor! Femininity and effeminacy are indeed two different things. I believe it was C.S. Lewis who also said that in relation to God as the ultimate Initiator, we are all feminine as responders. No, there's nothing of misogyny nor limp-wristedness in the proper understanding of any of this.
Gabriel Rench  - Watchia do?  Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:24 am
So male/female has to do with creation (who we are). Feminine/masculine has to do with our presented actions depending on our various roles (what we do)?
Matthew Massingill  - Question for Pastor Wilson  Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:35 pm
I took (maybe wrongly?) the initial list of "effeminate signs" as primarily humor with the standard grain of truth at the core. The cited responses apparently took it as a serious positional statement, and as such spent more time killing straw men than addressing substance.

However, this again is premised on my assumption about the intent of the list itself. If it was intended as more serious than I'm giving it credit for, then I admittedly remain fuzzy how the feminine/effeminate distinction in individual piety sheds light on what precisely in a corporate identity & service (which you point out IS to be feminine) - is problematic. If effeminacy is misplaced femininity, and our corporate identity is feminine, then would not feminine corporate aspects be non-misplaced, and therefore not effeminate?

My personal inclinations here are entirely in line with both of your pieces, so this is not really a disagreement but more a request for iron to sharpen iron. I am convinced the second piece is indeed Scriptural, and that the first piece has that general underpinning but is still mostly a "fun" piece. But a point for point description/defense of the first piece (which you clarified was not the intent of the second), is what I'd have a difficult time rendering. Although the author of the "Esau Christianity" may not see the appropriate distinctions you make, I believe he is taking issue less with the distinction itself than with your criteria of what is feminine (and thus, if applied by males, is then effeminate).


Will S  Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:31 am
Matthew, I took it the same way. He wrote a series of points that were intended to be funny with a core of truth and then the opposing articles did a point by point refutation worthy of a high school debate club. The original article was not written in such a way to be the start of a academic debate. This article sort of pivoted toward such a post.
Douglas Wilson  Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:35 am
Matt and Will, you both readmy first piece rightly with regard to me trying to be funny, with a core point I was wanting to advance.

I clearly have to write more about this (being kind of suprised at the nerve it touched). I will try to get to it soon.
Miguel  - male-ONLY sins?  Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:07 am
Thank you for the clarification. I have been on the fence for quite some time regarding gender issues in the church, so clear explanation of rhetoric is helpful to me.

My major concern, however, is on what basis do we declare which sins are the domain of which gender? You cite anger, bitter pride, and lust to be male-oriented sings, but I really don't see that we can justify this either existentially or biblically. I can see maybe some scriptural support for the tendency of men to lust, but I don't think it is enough to justify relegating this sin to men completely. Of course women are guilty of this, albiet probably not as much.

Could this possibly be the result of the Reformed/Presbyterian tendency to lean very heavily on scriptural implication (as opposed to things more clearly spelled out)? Right now I can accept that office in the church is clearly relegated to men by scripture, but to deny women any leadership in the worship life of the church seems to require a hermeneutical exclusivity that scripture does not prescribe.
Rob Hays  Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:56 pm
I don't believe that the statement was the certain sins are the exclusive purview of one gender or the other. Certainly women can lust and men can spout "old wives' tales", but rather one of the results of the mixture of the separate-ness of the genders and The Fall is that the genders have their own particular sinful pitfalls.
Andy Rhea  - I agree with the idea, but not the method  Friday, April 27, 2012 8:44 am
I've been thinking a lot about Wilson's two blogs concerning effeminate worship over the past several days. It took me a while to sort out what I like and dislike about these two posts. Here are my thoughts on both the issue and the method for addressing the issue: http://theoldnewchurch.tumblr.com/post/21882895363/effeminate-worship
Matthew Massingill  Friday, April 27, 2012 3:32 pm
I am lost as to the meaning of the statement in your piece that Wilson "disapproves of discipline." I think his point on that was a critique of those that DO disapprove of discipline.

You make plenty valid points - indeed true points, but I'm not sure that your piece brings them to bear on Wilson's approach. To state that we ought to submit to the authority of God and allow the Holy Spirit to lead individuals where He (the Spirit) desires, is merely to state a truism that I know Wilson would take no issue with. But this does not mean that we should simply assume all aspects of worship already are from the Spirit and pleasing to God.
The question to be probed is: What does such worship look like? This may not be an easy question either, but it's more to the point Wilson was suggesting.
Plus, I think Wilson's first piece is not really a matter for dissection - it seems like it was pure satire with a lot of stereotypical humor thrown in.
Andy Rhea  Monday, April 30, 2012 9:46 am
Matthew,

You've caught a mistake in my post. Meant to say "lack of discipline." I see how it would be unclear to have just summed it up as "discipline." Thank you. I've corrected that.

I also apologize for falling short in expressing the clarity of my view point. What I tried to get across in my post was my problem with Wilson's method of addressing this issue with such sarcasm.

As I listened to the sermon Douglas Wilson delivered on June 7th, 2010, I was considering the truths found in Romans 14:5-8 and how Wilson says we are to keep "the big deals big, the middle deals middle, and the small deals small." I think this is a great opportunity to exercise the application of that truth.

If anyone does see this issue as something to fret about, I'd recommend addressing men to be more manly as opposed to less effeminate which, as you could imagine, could easily be misunderstood by many Christ-serving women.