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Theology - Roman or Catholic?
Written by Douglas Wilson   
Wednesday, 09 December 2009 02:03

R.C. Sproul has written a few words to explain why he did not sign the Manhattan Declaration, and you may find those words here. On the other end of the spectrum, Al Mohler has explained in this place why he did sign it.

I am with Sproul when it comes to his statement that he would be "happy to march" with RCs and EOs to protest the slaughter of the unborn, and I am also with him in saying that he could not consent to do so on the basis of a "unified understanding of the gospel." As I have written before, I would not have signed that document while, with Sproul, I can certainly applaud the three central themes of the document -- the God-given dignity of all human life, the meaning of marriage, and the nature of religious liberty.

In short, I would not have signed (with Sproul) while I could have signed (with Mohler). My reasons for refraining were strategic and rhetorical and not doctrinal per se, as I explained before. More on this in a moment.

I appreciated Sproul's observation of the tendency toward "studied ambiguity" in these sorts of statements. And if I may be allowed to point it out, it is an ambiguity that was not apparent when it comes to the definitions of human life, heterosexual marriage, or freedom of conscience. There is wiggle room on terms like gospel, or Christian, and there is no similar wiggle room on a word like marriage.

Now the reason I wrote before that a classical Protestant could sign this thing without specific doctrinal compromise is that wiggle room is the kind of thing that you can wiggle in. You can understand the terms as you understand them, and no one is requiring you to understand them differently. Mohler is right about that. There is no specific theological compromise involved at that point, although there is confusion and muddle down the road (whihc is my point), when you try to explain to a parishioner why he shouldn't partake of the Mass at his nephew's wedding. "But you . . ." "But I thought . . ."

At the same time, if you, like Ligon Duncan, have made a special point out of not letting other Reformed Christians (like, say, me, ferinstance) use the term Christian in two different ways, then it is a bit thick to start using it yourself in those same two different ways. And so I believe it is fully appropriate for someone like Sproul to call him on it. When I use the term in these two senses, I spend a lot of time explaining exactly what I mean by it (in order to give PCA study commissions something to ignore in their footnotes). When Lig Duncan assumes those same distinctions without explanation, it seems to me that somebody is overegging the pudding.

Since I have just spoken of two different ways of using the word Christian, what are those ways? In brief, for those just joining us, a Christian is someone who, because he has heard the gospel of God proclaimed, has subsequently believed in Christ through that gospel in his heart, and has been converted to God. That's a Christian, the kind that is going to Heaven when he dies. A Christian is also someone who has been baptized in the triune name and who is consequently not a Buddhist.

Incidentally, I also appreciated and agreed with this statement from Sproul: "I believe there are true and sincere Christians within the Roman Catholic and the Orthodox churches. But these people are Christians [first sense!] in spite of their church’s official doctrinal positions." Amen to that. But they are Christians in the second sense also.

Now what could interupt this feast of reason and flow of soul? I do want to offer some criticism of Sproul in all this, and I hope to do so in the same spirit that Calvin displayed in responding to Luther, when some of that man's greatness overflowed onto the floor.

"It is only in our united proclamation of the one, true gospel of Jesus Christ that any heart, any mind, or any nation will truly change, by God’s sovereign grace and for His glory alone."

Threats to "united proclamation" come from two directions. One is to make the terms of the one, true gospel broader than God has made them, which is what Sproul had in view, and the other error is to make them narrower than God has made them. It is not sufficient to say no to a broad, ecumenical latitudinarianism -- we must also say no to a truncated and blinkered sectarianism.

In this instance, Sproul avoided both errors. He said what he believed, and he said it without writing off fellow Reformed men who shared with him his understanding of the gospel, but who differed with him at this specific point.

"The Manhattan Declaration puts evangelical Christians in a tight spot. I have dear friends in the ministry who have signed this document, and my soul plummeted when I saw their names. I think my friends were misled and that they made a mistake, and I want to carefully assert that I have spoken with some of them personally about their error and have expressed my hope that they will remove their signatures from this document. Nevertheless, I remain in fellowship with them at this time and believe they are men of integrity who affirm the biblical gospel and the biblical doctrines articulated in the Protestant Reformation."

This is a model of Christian charity in the midst of strong disagreement. It is the way this kind of thing ought to be done -- but it is not the way the PCA handled the FV controversy. And when Sproul spoke to that particular issue on the floor of GA, he was painting the side of the barn with a broad roller brush, and not with the miniaturist care he displayed here.

And this is why the point is important -- please believe that I am not bringing up a grudge, or some old score to settle. I respect and admire Sproul. But when you exclude men who share with you a commitment to the historic Reformed faith, and then something like this Manhattan Declaration comes up, you really are in the position of the boy who cried wolf. The PCA is riddled with men who are skilled at playing politics, and when you play politcs for long enough, and have accused enough five-sola men of being closet Romanists, you are then kind of stuck when Lig Duncan leaves a case of boxed fruit like this on your doorstep. This kind of thing leaves plenty of room for the outside cynical observer to conclude "it's all politics, man."

But it isn't all politics. The gospel, long term, really is at stake. But it is just as threatened by incompetent heresy hunters who can't read as it is by fuzzy muzzy group heresy huggers who can't think.



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Mark Horne  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:13 am
Another thing that I'm glad Sproul did: he based his disagreement on errors that might be imported into the Gospel. He did not demand a reductionist definition of the Gospel that excluded Christ's Lordship.
The Scylding  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:06 am
I lived in South Africa in the '90's. Well, declarations, manifesto's statements and all that were a dime a dozen. So many lines in the sand it looked like a Zen garden. The problem is, nowadays everybdoy wants to be a Luther. Therefore nobody is. The nett result is that the debacle looks like a love-fest: Hey, we are all agreeing, we are one, etc etc. Yawn.
oldfatslow  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:40 am
We need a bonfire and

a round of "Cum by ya."



The Scylding,

I like the Zen garden analogy.



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Will S  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:11 am
Pastor Wilson, how do you define "the gospel"? Do you define it as Sproul does (an explicit statement of justification through faith by grace by the imputed righteousness of Christ) or do you have a broader definition (for example, Wright makes the case in "what st paul really said" that gospel is a declaration of Jesus as King - Isaiah 52:7)? The way I read RC Sproul, no one other than Reformed, five-point Protestants can really proclaim the gospel - every other real Christian is saved "in spite of" their doctrine.
Douglas Wilson  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:24 am
Will, the gospel is the content of the Apostle's Creed -- Christ crucified and raised for sinners. Justification by faith alone is implicit in the first two words of the Creed, that is to say "I believe." But that is our necessary response to the gospel, not the gospel itself.
Will S  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:40 am
So would you say that the RCC for all their muddled theology on Mary and Justification do proclaim the gospel in some sense?
Douglas Wilson  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:47 am
Yes, in some sense. The gospel is still there in its objective sense, while their gospel corruptions are in the area of encrustations, competitors, distractions, and improper responses.
Will S  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:49 am
Ok, great. Thanks for the info.
Son of Thunder  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:52 am
So when should all the churches, if ever, gather to make a stand? The German churches made a stand with a document against the Nazi regime - Barth and Bonhoeffer both signed it. When should we protest what is being done? If abortion is not an important enough issue to drive us to unite against it, then what is? An Islamic rule over America? Persecution?
Jeff Moss  Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:46 pm
Here's a hypothetical (for now) question: Why should a Protestant not eat the flatbread and drink the wine at a Catholic Mass, not in acquiescence to Roman Catholic theology but in defiance of it? In other words, as a sort of holy civil disobedience?



To put it another way: Aren't Catholic baptism and eucharist valid because of what Jesus says they are, not what Thomas Aquinas says they are? So what if a Protestant breaks the Catholics' rules by partaking of bread and wine at their Mass and afterward explaining to his Catholic friends why he did and what it really means? And yes, that second part is important.
David McCrory  Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:19 am
Pr. Wilson,



Kind of picking up where Will S. left off - you don't believe then that the RCC is preaching 'another gospel' (Gal. 1:8-9)? If not, then how much more aberrant would their perversion of the true gospel have to be to qualify as another gospel? Thank you.
Douglas Wilson  Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:07 pm
David, it depends. Trent amounts to another gospel because of what it formally attaches to the objective gospel (which is still there). But a local parish priest might exhibit no more semi-Pelagianism than Billy Graham does, which is not good, but people get saved anyway. A lot depends.
David McCrory  Friday, December 11, 2009 3:25 am
Douglas, I'm trying to understand here - you're saying Trent amounts to another gospel yet the true gospel objectively remains? How can this be? Aren't the true gospel and, by definition, 'another gospel' two mutually exclusive items?
Douglas Wilson  Friday, December 11, 2009 4:07 am
David, sorry. Not trying to be obtuse. I mean that if someone says the gospel is "death and resurrection of Christ" plus the wearing of blue shirts, the total package is another gospel, but because the heresy was reached by addition, not subtraction, the objective gospel is still in there. This is why I think Machen said what he did about RCs and liberals in his Christianity and Liberalism.
David McCrory  Friday, December 11, 2009 5:01 am
Douglas, thanks. And I'm not trying to be pesky. I suppose my thinking is even if you add a negative it still takes away from the gospel thus, conceiveably, altering it's composition in such a way as to form another gospel. But I never was good at math. :)
Tim Enloe  Friday, December 11, 2009 6:26 am
I guess I've spent too much time with the City of God, because I can't make sense of this reasoning. We are supposed to abstain from really practical things that contribute to civic virtue and civic peace because "the Gospel" is the only thing that changes men's hearts, and everybody except Reformed people mess up "the Gospel"? The heart is the only thing that really matters? We should sit inside the church singing Psalms and emotionally hoping that one day, perhaps 10 or 15 generations from now, we will be mature enough in our "worldview thinking" to do something really hands-on practical about politics and public virtue?


On the other hand, I guess it does make sense once one has eviscerated general revelation of any meaningful content, replaced the rational operations of the human mind with self-referential chatter about "the plain meaning of Scripture," and learned to pretend that the only kind of law that really matters is the legal code in the Bible. This isn't classical Protestantism, and it's NOT the way things were done for a thousand years before the Reformation. Nothing is being "recovered" by this way of thinking, let alone "rebuilt." Augustine's way is better: we should remember that converts to the City of God come from the City of Man, and, making use of all ways we can find to preserve civic peace and virtue in the public square, we must bear with them until we find them confessing the Faith.

Son of Thunder  Friday, December 11, 2009 2:43 pm
I think that's exactly right: sure, Reformed folks get the Gospel right, but that's no reason not to stand with our brothers and sisters in Christ despite our differences. Sometimes I fear that Reformed folk have a view too much closer to "outside the Holy Reformed Church there is no salvation" than being united in one body of Christ, by one faith, in one baptism.
Douglas Wilson  Friday, December 11, 2009 4:08 pm
Tim, in defense of those like Sproul who wouldn't sign, they said they would be happy to stand with and march with RCs and EOs on these issues. They just didn't want to have to deny verbally what they believe as the price of admission. So I don't think this is over whether or not we should act in concert with others on stuff like this, but what we should say as we do.
David McCrory  Saturday, December 12, 2009 12:43 am
Douglas, exactly. I would walk along side just about anyone condemning the three articles of this declaration. And along the way I might say something to the effect; "As long as we're trying to make thngs right, what about this little thing called the gospel?"
Tim Enloe  Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:22 am
Pastor, Wilson,

What I wrote above is, of course, something of a caricature. I'd be willing to moderate it somewhat if the rhetoric of your posts was clearer and thus less open to such caricatures. At any rate, I find that the more I write in draft posts trying to explain, the less it seems likely to do any good. These days, I am not sure that the Internet is any kind of place to try to have any kind of really serious cultural discussion. I have no wish to be perceived as a troublemaker or malcontent, so I think it's best if I just stay away. I don't understand much of what you are saying or aiming at these days, but I still do have a high respect for you personally, and I remember with what I hope is a proper sense of gravitas my debts to you and all the men at New St. Andrews. I sincerely apologize for any ungenerous, uncharitable, or otherwise unhelpful remarks on my part, and I'll now cease commenting here.