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Money, Love, Desire - Violence and the Trinity
Written by Douglas Wilson   
Monday, 12 January 2009 01:57

Alright then, on postmill assumptions, knowing that there will come a time when they will not hurt nor destroy in all God's holy mountain, when will we know to shut down all the fire departments? This is not a trick question. Actually, if you think about it, it might be a trick question.

We will know to shut down all the fire departments when houses stop burning down. When we have perfected fire retardant construction materials, say, and we haven't had a fire in this town for a hundred years, there will come a time when those who want to keep the fire department on the city budget for nostalgic reasons will finally lose the argument. In short, fire departments will disappear when fires do.

And in the same way, police departments will not be necessary when there is no more crime, and armies and navies will not be necessary when nations stop threatening one another.

I use the phrase "postmill assumptions" because this is actually an important aspect to understanding the teaching of Paul on the civil authority in Romans 13. As I am fond of saying, there is a ditch on both sides of the road. For the pacifists and quasi-pacifists, the eschaton is now, or ought to be, and the Incarnation of Jesus is seen as the signal to begin disarming now, and we are already two thousand years behind schedule. In this view, Romans 13, which gives the diaconal sword to the magistrate, is a real inconvenience, and is frequently dismissed as a temporary arrangement, or as saying far less than it actually says. On the other hand, there is the static view of the relationship of human history to human evil (premill and amill), which says that magistrates needed to be banging heads together two thousand years ago, and will no doubt be needing to be banging heads together in just the same way two thousand years from now. If the Lord tarries, a premill brother might add.

The postmill thinker has a different view of history, and so when it comes to the era of peace for this world that he believes is coming before the Second Coming, he has to answer questions about development, pace, preconditions, and so forth. In Paul's day, Roman justice was rough, pretty grim, and yet comparatively fair. In fact, the Romans had a better grip on certain principles of justice than do certain Internet doctrine jockies. "To whom I answered, It is not the manner of the Romans to deliver any man to die, before that he which is accused have the accusers face to face, and have licence to answer for himself concerning the crime laid against him" (Acts 25:16). At the same time, it was clear evidence that Paul was no perfectionist when he labeled Nero as God's deacon of justice . . . even during the time when Seneca had his foot on the brake.

But the postmill view of history does not anticipate having to call a long series of future Neros "God's deacon." We are laboring for the elimination of rough justice in the hands of thugs in favor of refined and surgical justice in the hands of godly men. And over time, those godly men will have less and less to do. How much time? Actually, quite a lot.

During this time, the magistrate becomes more just, not less, and this justice includes punishing the wrong-doer, the task that God has assigned to the magistrate. Now this view is only legitimate just so long as there are wrong-doers to punish. If, through the influence of the gospel, the crime rate drops to zero, but we still have cops arresting and charging people with antique crimes just so the police department will not have to lay anybody off, then something is seriously screwed up. In fact, it would be so screwed up as to constitute an officially-sanctioned crime, which should be restrained by force from other quarters, meaning that we are not quite there yet. When we are there, and we don't study war any more, or riot control tactics, or SWAT team maneuvers, it will be because we don't need to anymore. And the the fact we don't need to anymore will be glaringly obvious.

This means that the postmill view of Romans 13 is realistic, just like the premill and amill views are. We do not advocate the dismantling of our coercive institutions until there are no more rapes and murders. We do not advocate the dismantling of our militaries until invasions are truly impossible. At the same time, the postmill view of Romans 13 expects transformations in how that passage will be applied, just as the pacifists and quasi-pacifists urge. We just don't await those transformations impatiently. The pacifist is to be commended for his idealism, but not for his dreamy detachment from the real world as it actually works. The premill and amill thinkers are to be commended for their realism and recognition of the gritty facts on the ground, but not for their de facto neglect of what the coming of Christ is supposed to mean in the transformation of this history of ours. That leaves the postmill position to reconcile these two elements, and though it may be a coincidence, that is the position I hold.

Having said all this, it is important to set the stage for a detailed treatment of Romans 13. Let this serve as a key introduction, with the details to come later.

In Romans 12, the apostle tells these Roman Christians to swear off personal vengeance. This is not because vengeance is wrong, but rather because vengeance is God's (Rom. 12:19). The Christian who does not take personal vengeance is told to forswear this by making room for wrath, by stepping aside so that wrath may come. If someone wrongs you grievously, then feed him when he is hungry and give him something to drink when he is thirsty (Rom. 12:20). This is how to overcome evil with good -- extend personal kindness while leaving room for God's wrath.

But in context, what is that wrath? We need to remember that when Romans was written, it was not divided up into chapters and verses. The section immediately following this is the place where Paul tells us that the magistrate is God's deacon of wrath (Rom. 13:4). God has deputized the civil magistrate, and has given him the authority to use the sword on those who do evil. When he does so, he is visiting God's wrath on the criminal, and it is this wrath that the Christian is commanded to leave room for.

Again, we are confronted with two errors of excess, and we find that the balanced biblical position is the one that holds to the truth articulated by each of these positions, but which also holds to the truth that each one neglects. The pacifist believes that he can extend personal kindness without stepping aside for God's wrath as embodied in the civil magistrate. The "hang 'em high" justice-monger believes that he can use the civil magistrate as a surrogate in his own desire for personal vengeance, and he ignores what the Bible bluntly and plainly says about the need for personal grace and kindness extended to the one who has done evil to him.

But each of these options is disobedience, and ironically, they are exactly the same kind of "picking and choosing" disobedience. Paul says that when you are horribly wronged you are to do two things, not one thing -- extend personal grace and call the cops. But the law and order guy calls the cops, swearing under his breath about the "damn kids these days," and the moonbeam sentimentalist strews flowers and forgiveness in every direction -- and expresses ten times more disapproval for the police who recovered his car than he does for the drunk teenagers who stole it.

A man in the flesh can easily do either one of these things. Only a man in the Spirit can do both.



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Randy Compton  Monday, January 12, 2009 4:40 am
Does postmil theology, then, not suggest a gradual removal of the curse?

In order for there to be no police department, will there be no more crime?Does a population in which crime has totally been eraticated, making force no longer necessary suggest "entire sanctification" of the world's population?


Does this sanctified world include all drivers observing the speedlimit? No traffic cops necessary? No accidents?

Where does death / disease (or its absence) fit into the postmil scheme?
Eric Stampher  Monday, January 12, 2009 3:44 pm
Dearest Pastor, Maybe it's not THIS history (the one you and I are in) you see amillers as neglecting to claim for Christ. Maybe it it's THAT one you're hoping to right with postmill justice -- the one later, that will be enjoyed by only a fraction of the earth -- and that, to include some who hate God and His children. You and I and all God's children before then will be gone. Who will wipe away our tears? Which lion will lie down with those little sisters who were already torn apart years ago? Amillers say Christ won for them too, and has continued from age to age with flaming sword to wrest captives from Satan. Our hope is not in a few temporary future fleeting golden years.
Ilíon  Monday, January 12, 2009 4:37 pm
Randy Compton: "Does postmil theology, then, not suggest a gradual removal of the curse?"


That's a good question, it seems to get to the heart of the matter.


To take it perhaps a bit further, does it not seem that postmil theology implies that the time will come when people are born without sinful natures?


For *we* are not sinners because we commit sins; rather, we commit sins because we are sinners: we sin because we cannot not sin.


And, apparently, the time will come, soon or late, when our descendants are born without our sinful natures. May we then say that they will not *need* Christ's sacrifice, for they are not sinners? Do they need Christ?


An interesting question, it seems to me.


But, what of our descendants at some "half-way" point between us and those descendants who are without sin? Are they "half-way" without sin? Is a sinful nature even quantifiable, such that one person's nature may be more or less sinful than some other's?
Ilíon  Monday, January 12, 2009 4:44 pm
Goodness! After reading Brother Wilson's thoughts, I was all set to decide that the postmil position made sense, that it was probably correct ... I certainly do not look forward even to the idea of the death and destruction which seems must accompany a premil understanding of the Second Coming.



But, pondering one good question sends me back to the belief I'd rather not hold.
Ilíon  Monday, January 12, 2009 4:52 pm
Still, aside from the pre-post-a- question, I think Bro. Wilson's overall thoughts expressed in this entry are wise and worthy of condideration.



May I offer my summarization:


The "easy grace" of the "moonbeam sentimentalist" perverts and overthrows justice in the name of mercy (thereby increasing injustice); but the "law and order" of the "'hang 'em high' justice-monger" leaves no room for mercy.



But Christ rejects both these positions.
AdamR  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:36 am
Two first-century Christians were talking with one another, the first a postmillennialist and the second a premillennialist. Upon hearing of Nero's atrocities, the first fellow says that he is looking forward to the day when rulers won't be allowed to treat people like that anymore. The second fellow thought this was going just a bit too far.


"So you think people will be born without fallen nature?" he insisted.


"Not at all," replied the first. "Just that God in His widening grace will keep it from flapping quite so much. He will restrain it more than at present."


The second man laughed. "That will never happen. Kings will never stop treating people the way they do now."


"Kings? I was talking about Presidents. One day us folk will get to decide who will rule us by electoral process."


"Madness," the second said, shaking his head in disbelief. "The world can't improve that much."

David Houf  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:53 am
Nice Adam...but was it an improvement? ;)
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:02 am
Two 21st-century American Christians were talking with one another, the first a postmillenialist and the second an a-millennialist.




Upon hearing recent election results and seeing a population seeking salvation through those they elect, the a-mil fellow said he looked forward to the day when we will no longer be ruled by presidents elected by the will of a fallen people.


The postmill fellow thought this was going just a bit too far.


"So you think that God's grace is not ever widening?" He's not going to restrain evil in ever increasing amounts?"


The A-mil fellow laughed. "On the contrary. God will go on restraining evil until the day he destroys it entirely and sends us a King we did not elect--one who has elected us instead and who will change us and the world so that evil will never have to be restrained
in us or around us again."



"Madness," the postmill feillow said, shaking his head in disbelief. "That would be a failure of the Church and the Gospel."
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:03 am
Yikes, sorry for the bold--tried to put in line breaks and got bold instead: sorry!
Jane Dunsworth  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:46 am
no bold
Jane Dunsworth  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:49 am
For real this time?
Jane Dunsworth  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:51 am
Randy, was it not a bold ("b") tag? If not, close whatever tag you used TWICE to get rid of it.
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:24 am
I thought it was a break tag but I must have put in a bold tag instead-- bold begone!
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:25 am
Now?
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:27 am
Once more?
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:34 am
May the kindly site administrator remove all the debris I seem to have accumulated!
Ilíon  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:07 am
Now?
Ilíon  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:10 am
I looked at the page's html-source ... there were effectively 10 emboldings in the one post.
AdamR  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:27 am
David, taken as a whole, it was indeed an improvement. For instance, it is no longer etiquette among rulers to use me and my brothers and sisters in Christ as garden torches. Even when rulers today operate tyrannically, they must do so while ostensibly pretending not to. And I fully expect the improvements made in the last 2000 years to pale in comparison to the next 2000. And those improvements to pale in comparison to the 2000 after that.
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:33 am
David, doesn't that (rulers killing Christians) only apply to churches primarily in the West? There are brothers and sisters in Christ who are being tortured and dying in many parts of the world. And perhaps the fact that in the Western world we are not "dying for out faith" is no improvement from a certain perspective given the historical impact of martyred Christians. Don't get me wrong--I'm with you in longing for a time when we live in peace, and I have no desire to suffer torture and death.
Randy Compton  Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:33 am
Sorry that last comment should have been directed at Adam.
AdamR  Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:13 pm
It is true that persecutions still happen around the world, and that is why I said that taken as a whole, our age is much improved from the first century. It is also why I said that I think the age 2000 years from now will be even better in the same degree as ours is compared with 3 A.D. There is still and always will be improvements to be made.


One of the improvements of our age is that while everybody then thought it was perfectly acceptable for an emperor to have prisoners tortured for his evening meal's entertainment, that is a rare occurence today by everybody's standards. Our Neros are much farther and fewer between than then. And despite the fact that there are still barbarians, is a vast improvement generally.

Ilíon  Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:22 pm
Is there a logical difference between "promissory materialism" and "promissory immaterialism?"
Ilíon  Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:23 pm
I mean: are not both merely question-begging?