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Written by Douglas Wilson   
Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:34 am

The first thing to do is go here, and read through the post, particularly the transcript of the Q&A at the bottom. Tim Keller is at Covenant, and is asked a very good question about homosexuality. In the course of his answer, Keller says that there is no question about where Redeemer stands on the question (which I am happy to accept). Their position is the biblical position. But what this does is raise questions about evangelism, faithful witness, and moral courage. It raises questions about the strategic value of an evangelistic and apologetic strategy that is not prepared to confront, directly, some of the central sins of the people you are addressing.

And by "confronting sin," I do not intend to commend the kind of preaching that gets its jollies from calling other people sinners. That is a problem, but it has to be confessed that in this age, this era, it is not our problem. We should want to preach about the central sins because as preachers of the gospel, we have scattered through the dungeons, with our gospel keys. In that circumstance, why wouldn't we want to unlock the biggest and thickest chains?

But instead we are like Lot's pastor in Sodom, who gradually over time saw his sermons get diluted into bland blessings and blander bromides. At the end, he may have wondered how that ever happened. Or, more likely, he may never have wondered. Although he may have wondered, at one point, what that odd glow outside his study window was.

The second thing is to refer you back to this post. In it, I make reference to the

problem faced by evangelical big city pastors, and this is it in a nutshell. If a surgeon wants to do gospel work on the heart, he has to first open the patient up -- and nothing will do for that but the knife of the law. Without that, evangelical preachers are reduced to applying their treatments of the heart through various forms of accupressure.

Relevant gospel ministry, relevant evangelistic ministry, is willing for the rich young ruler to go away saddened. It is willing for riots designed to get you and your message out of town. I have written recently about the utter irrelevance of an undue concern for relevance. Out of all the practicing homosexuals in Manhattan, are there none who want to hear liberty proclaimed to the captives? Out of all the professing Christians who struggle with same-sex temptations, should they not be able to hear clear, biblical instruction about what they should do with their temptations? Would that not be relevant? Yes, it would be, and precisely because it was relevant, the enemies of sexual liberty (that liberty which is enjoyed over decades between one man and one woman) would create a political stink.

I am not on the warpath against Keller. I think he has done a lot of fine work. But when it comes to this issue of sex and the city, I believe his strategic thinking is misguided in the extreme. Instead of being held up as a model for young seminarians, at this point Redeemer should be held up as a cautionary tale. Why? Because backrubs won't work with heart disease.



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Davis Wilson  Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:17 am
I largely agree with you on this. As I see it, there are two principal motivations for a big-city pastor to not preach about homosexuality from the pulpit - one of them wrong, the other right. The wrong motivation is a lack of courage owing to a (very real) fear of persecution or, as you say, a misplaced desire for "relevance." On the other hand, I think effectiveness is a proper motivation for refraining from speaking on homosexuality. One of the reasons Tim Keller has been so successful in reaching the educated and urban is that he does not engage them where their defenses are strongest - e.g., homosexuality, conservative politics, evolution. Instead, he engages them where they are weak, pointing out that they cannot keep even their own moral code and that their moral code is baseless apart from God. He also entices them with desire, showing them that the big liberal dream they hope to attain through politics actually stems from a longing that has been placed in them by God and will be satisfied only in God. By this, he catches them from behind, and when the have been converted, they'll be ready to hear and accept the moral teaching they would have rejected before. It's sort of an "all things to all men" approach, perhaps like Paul praising the "very religious" Athenians. Still, I think there could and should be stronger teaching on this at Redeemer. When I have friends from Redeemer who attend anti-Proposition 8 rallies, I wonder at how well the church's position is being communicated.
gullchasedship  - Back rubs do help  Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:05 am
I'm not so concerned if it's not mentioned in the preaching. I'd be more concerned if they allowed practicing homosexuals to become members.
Will S  Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:24 am
Apparently there is a line in the membership application that specifically calls out homosexuality as 'not an option'.
Evan Hughes  Thursday, April 08, 2010 8:11 am
Tim Keller is one of my favorite preachers and has helped me understand certain things better than anybody else, but on this point he needed to be called out. I pray he listens to this admonishment.
Ken Pierce  Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:04 am
Doug,

Like you, I think Keller has done a lot of fine work, and, like you, I think he is out to lunch on this one.

The problem with much contextualization is one starts to ask himself, "What should I not put in front of the gospel?" In short, what controversial teachings are "family truths" that might supposedly unnecessarily offend the unbeliever, and keep him from coming to Christ.

While I understand the weight of that queestion, and wrestle with it myself, it seems to me that this is not the way the Bible has us deal with believers or unbelievers, whatever they may be accustomed or unaccustomed to hearing.

The thief would not be surprised to hear the preacher say "stealing is wrong." It may offend him, or it may convict him. Being a Calvinist gives me the freedom to leave that in God's hand.

I don't see how human sexuality is any different. It would be just as offensive to say to the heterosexual fornicator, "You need to stop sleeping with your boyfriend." But, hopefully few of us would be afraid to say that.

How ironic this whole thing boils down to a confusion of law and gospel. Law is designed, at least in one use, to bring conviction of sin. Telling the homosexual he is lost in sin may (and often has) be the first step on the road to his redemption.

I am always struck by the scene of Paul on the beach at Ephesus, where he does not say, "I am innocent of your blood because I didn't shrink back from declaring the gospel to you, but rather the whole counsel of God.

That is our call, as preachers. Law, gospel, demands, forgiveness, conviction and condemnation, pardon and release, and power to overcome the thorniest of sins, homosexuality included.
Will S  Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:11 am
Hi Doug, let me offer a brief defense of Keller here. Admittedly, his answer was mumbling and not very good - but he was in front of a Christian audience so it was not a time to be prophetic....I think he was trying to think through his answer (people are assuming he was being evasive). Also, Keller did preach at least one sermon on homosexuality a while back (according to a witness who attends Redeemer). Further, his answer doesn't say they don't address it at all only that he prefers to address it in contexts other than from the pulpit (such as small groups and 1on1 discussions) I don't think that the Bible proscribes that we have to address every single sin of the congregation the same way (with a sermon from the pulpit). Finally, the membership application at Redeemer specifically states that Homosexuality is 'not an option' for Christians.

I think we are judging him differently than we are judging the rest of the reformed world. I attend a small and very conservative reformed church. There is no question where we stand on homosexuality. But have I never heard a sermon on homosexuality in my time there. Not once. And further, our church doesn't even say anything specifically about it in the membership application!

Now one could say that homosexuality is a bigger problem in Manhattan and therefore should be preached on more there....but I think it is a problem nationally and while it may be more prevalent in NY it is hardly unique to that city.

- Will
jay niemeyer  Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:29 am
Tim did say that he was planning a Sunday sermon to deal directly with the issue. Better late...
But knowing his congregation and the issue of casting pearls before swine might be an aspect of why Keller is more hesitant.
Is the heavy handed direct approach always called for in every sermon? Chesterton and Lewis seem to have thought otherwise at times.
Rob Steele  Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:47 am
I'm not sure heart surgery is the right metaphor. It implies that the patient is not yet dead.
William Fehringer  Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:26 pm
Redeemer and the other PCA churches in the city need prayer and encouragement. It isn't simply a fear of the congregation but of the owners from whom they rent their worship spaces that keeps them from speaking boldly.
Eric Stampher  - Membership Shmembership  Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:01 pm
Pastor, as long as your questioning Keller's moral courage in speaking out, perhaps we might ask how it is that our pastors say they require the sheep to sign a membership agreement before all feeding is given. "Peter, feed my sheep." "You betcha, Lord. But I'll be sticking with those who agree here on this document I made up."

Homosexual activity "not an option" -- so says the membership agreement!! God forbid we preach it to anybody outside the choir room.
Douglas Wilson  Friday, April 09, 2010 6:16 am
Eric, you bring this up periodically, and I honestly don't understand your point. We don't require anyone to sign anything before we offer them food. We do stipulate an understanding before we would presume to discipline them. But there are people who have come to our church for years without joining.
Eric Stampher  Friday, April 09, 2010 7:50 pm
Dear Pastor Doug,

Thank you for taking note of this concern. I hold you in the highest (as in Everest) regard. Please consider that you may have a blind spot up there.

When you advance the idea that you first need a membership document from me stipulating my acceptance of your discipline, you show the same wimpage Keller does, though all very somber and without the stuttering. But your pastoral obligation to discipline or feed the sheep in any other fashion should be blind to any "membership."

Look, the very term membership implies that those folks coming to your church for years were not members. What were they missing out on? What now do they get when they become members? If you ask them now, I bet you'll here that now they really feel committed and accepted -- meaning less than such beforehand.

Whey didn't Paul think of this nifty document to get the sheep really in the fold?!

I once heard you quote in admiration a pastor who upon walking down the block met a self-proclaimed Christian who said he didn't attend anywhere. "Well, I'm your pastor, and I expect to see you in Church this Sunday." -- now there's a pastor who didn't hide behind the skirts of membership. The pastor needs to stand in the shadow of His Shephard, Who commands and loves all the sheep without the use of our stipulations.
Eric Stampher  Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:06 am
Put another way:

I've never been prouder of a pastor as when I heard you barely contain your anger at the practice of barring wee ones from His table, as though they are not at the center of who we are as His people!

Perhaps these nonmember members who attend for years ought to be considered, in every way, members and pillars of His church at Christ's Church.

Reformed churches start eating their young, so to speak, when they bar them both from the Table as well as from automatic acceptance as brothers. Imagine telling your sister she's "accepted" and welcome, even at your table, but, you know, until she does such and such and signs this and that, you can't really take her in all the way 100% as a "member" of your family! Really??!!? And just who gave you these rules to separate yourself -- in any way -- from His other children, your brothers and sisters?

Don't you see the insidiousness of not calling all baptized brothers and sisters members (a biblically laden term, especially in the context of a "church")? And I'm witness to dear reformed brothers barring me and my family from the table (despite being baptized by Rushdoony on the third day -- ok, actually the twelfth year), and even from going the next logically consistent step (saying I must be considered reprobate) if I don't subscribe to the three forms of unity.

Again, your slap may to you seem a downright hug, but when you don't regard every sheep (especially the ones attending in your bayly-niche for years) as full members, you lay on them the same quiet burdensome doubt as when some won't sit down at meat with His little ones.
Eric Stampher  Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:37 pm
Beatin' a dead horse, probably, but its ironic that the Matthew 18 passage you quote as support of the church discipline practice is the one where Jesus grabs the kiddo as His example. "Christians who attend church regularly, but are non-members, are subject to pastoral admonishment from the church, but not excommunication." Odd that the verse 17 you quote is supposed to apply to brothers, not just "members".